22 March 2012

"We Want It NOW!"

Parents, would you let your child speak to you like this?

Hopefully not. Yet here we see Rob DeLuca of His Way Church encouraging a child to speak in this irreverent manner to the holy God of the universe. Blasphemous.

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  1. That's wicked to demand and scream "We want it now" to God Almighty? No fear of God before their eyes, no trembling before God..

    This is a testimony to the longsuffering and patience of the One True and Living God of the Holy Bible that He doesn't instantly consume and utterly destroy sinful men who publicly make such painfully wicked vociferous demands from him.

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  2. God has got to be looking down and saying 'you say what to me?'

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  3. Wow. So that little girl is going to grow up with a warped view of God. The little girl behind her is giggling the entire time. What a mess.

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  4. This is devilish... The opposite of what they say. Ichabod.

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  5. "Blasphemy"

    Are you all NUTS???????

    This young girl is praying from her heart. So, she isn't quite schooled in the "proper" way to pray (according to your own blinkered, religious views). So what??? Can't you bitter, law loving "religious police" simply rejoice in the fact that a girl so young can at least pray earnestly from her heart? My God, when religion gets in the way of God's Amazing Grace, you get what is written in the comments above. You all make me sick.

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  6. Ok, so I see now that you moderate your comments, meaning my previous one won't be published, so I'll just have to say this to you, the owner of this blog - you should be ashamed of yourself.

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    1. Anonymous,

      Let me apologize for the delay in posting your original comment. If you had read the comment policy, you would know that there was nothing within your comment that would keep me from posting it. Sometimes I simply am not able to follow up in as timely a manner as others would like. I sincerely apologize if this was an inconvenience for you.

      Now, as regards your original comment. There is little going on in the video above that is even remotely biblical, godly or truly Holy Spirit-led. You say the girl hasn't been properly "schooled" (according to myself and the other commenters). Don't you think it is highly likely that this young girl has learned to pray by mimicking the adults around her, whether it be her family or the leadership of this church? And if she hasn't been, then ought not the supposed Christian adults around her have stopped her from screaming, shouting, and demanding from a holy God in this manner? Nowhere in Scripture, when we see Jesus modeling prayer, do we see this type of outright disrespect. To give such behavior a pass is nearly as atrocious as the behavior itself.

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  7. Kudos for posting my two comments. It is very rare indeed when an opposing view is published on websites such as this, and for that you have my gratitude.

    I certainly agree that many children in church will act out of "learned behaviour". However, this shouldn't diminish their sincerity. Regardless of whether she may be praying "wrong", as is implied by all of the sad commenters above, what is evident is that she has a relationship with Jesus, and that should be celebrated, not mocked, and certainly not dismissed so gleefully by the religious law-lovers above who sneeringly accuse the girl of being demonic. Plank, meet Eye.

    Can you please explain to me then, what exactly is "atrocious" about her prayer? You see, my reading of scripture shows me that through Jesus death and resurrection we can now be called friends of God (John 15:15). We are seated beside HIm in heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6). Does this sound like the kind of God who expects us to grovel at His feet pleading and bowing in subservience! The bible tells us plain as day that we are not His servants, we are His sons! Does a son come home from school and say to his father "Oh awesome father, who pays the bills and provides our food, I beseech thee that you look kindly on your humble son, wretched though I am, and grant me the honour, if you feel so fit, to give me five dollars so I can buy my lunch tomorrow". See how stupid this sounds? Yet, it appears that this is your "model" for approaching God, our abba Father. God is certainly Holy, and He deserves our respect, but He NEVER demands it! Calling what this young girl has done as being blasphemous is downright wrong. It appears that you have no idea of the nature and character of our Father, who loves us unconditionally!

    I call on each one of you Pharisees to examine your hearts and seek the truth in His word and not sit as judges concerning a young girl earnestly praying to her Father.

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    1. You rightly acknowledge above that God is our Father. That being said, what would an earthly father do if his child approached him in this manner? I most certainly hope that he would not reward such an ungracious, disrespectful demand. How much more reverently ought we approach our heavenly Father, who is worthy of far more honor and respect?

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    2. Anonymous,
      May I infer that this is the way YOU also "pray" since you approve of it? I see no evidence that this girl has a relationship with Jesus, rather I see her as a pawn in this false system demonstrated by this video. If she really had a relationship with Jesus, she would know better that to order God to do her bidding.

      The charge of "Pharisee" is quite common coming from those who do not want false teachings exposed. "Sad commenters" and "Law-lovers" - tsk, tsk. Ad hominem attacks are certainly easier than properly defending a position aren't they?

      As for your charge that we are sitting "as judges," the Bible calls on us to judge rightly and to expose the deeds of darkness.

      I agree with EBenz - an earthly father would punish a child who treated him with such disrespect - how much more so a heavenly father?

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    3. Yes God is also my friend, but I don't make demands of my friends. Jesus Himself gave us a model for praying & always says "Not My will, but God's will" & Jesus is God, yet He never demanded God.

      Standing up for reverence to a Holy God doesn't make anyone a legalistic religious Pharisee, it just shows the love & conviction we have.

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  8. I found myself wanting to grab the microphone out of her hands. Yes, she is most likely mimicking what she sees as evident of the adults cheering her on. Though she might have the right motives, the way in which she DEMANDED the Spirit to move was that of a child screaming for candy or to stay up later than her bedtime. How is that okay?! It disturbed me greatly.

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  9. She's a LITTLE GIRL for crying out loud! You, as adults (at least I am assuming some of you are), should be wise enough to understand that the zealousness of youth means that sometimes "the right way" of doing things doesn't enter the equation. Is she being disrespectful? Perhaps. Do you really think God cares that she prays like that, or will strike her down for praying like that? NO WAY!!! Although judging by some of the comments (Glenn, I am talking about you) it appears to me that some of you would take great pleasure in seeing a lightening bolt come down from heaven and fry her "blasphemous" little butt. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Glenn -
    "The charge of "Pharisee" is quite common coming from those who do not want false teachings exposed. "Sad commenters" and "Law-lovers" - tsk, tsk. Ad hominem attacks are certainly easier than properly defending a position aren't they?

    As for your charge that we are sitting "as judges," the Bible calls on us to judge rightly and to expose the deeds of darkness."

    I call you Pharisees because you are displaying the exact same attributes that the Pharisees in Jesus day displayed. You sit in self-righteous judgement and twist scripture to suit your warped idea of the nature and character of God. The bible DOES NOT call on us to judge. It tells us the complete opposite in fact -
    Romans 2:1-3 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We know that the judgment of God rightly falls on those who practice such things. Do you suppose, O man—you who judge those who practice such things and yet do them yourself—that you will escape the judgment of God?
    James 4:12 There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?
    Matthew 7:1-5 “Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye.

    I am frankly disgusted to see such foul things written about a little girl's earnest prayer. But I am even more disgusted to see your feeble attempts to justify your shameful attitudes. I hope you are proud of yourselves, although I'd say that's a given, because pride is one of the attributes of the Pharisees, amongst whom you all would fit right in.

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    1. The fact that she is a young girl has no bearing on what she is doing - she is following what she was taught. I dare say if she was a prostitute - having been taught to do so - you would still rightly condemn her actions. No one here is condemning the girl - we are condemning her actions. She has obviously not been taught proper reverence for God nor proper prayer, nor apparently proper anything of a spiritual nature. Yes, God does care when children are taught wrongly.

      You made a false charge against me by implying that I would take pleasure in God blasting her with a lightning bolt. By doing so you have put yourself in the same position as you charge the rest of us, being unrighteously judgmental because, unlike those of us who judge the behavior, you are judging my heart!

      You claim we sit in "self-righteous judgement" because we properly discern that this girl's "prayer" is from false teachings and is blasphemous. You charge us with twisting Scripture and yet you gave no evidence. Instead, you gave us passages about unrighteous judgement rather than looking at the many which tell us we are indeed to judge. Even your passage from Matthew says we can judge if we first judge ourselves by the same standard - the first verse is about hypocritical judgement. So now, who is taking passages out of context?

      Yes, the Bible does call; on us to judge. For false teachers we are to judge their fruits (Matt. 7:15ff), we are to judge rightly (Lk.7:43, 12:57), judge righteously (Jn.7:24), judge all things (1 Cor. 2:15), that we will judge angels (1 Cor. 6:2,3), that we are to judge those in the church (1 Cor. 5:11-13), that we are to judge what is said (1 Cor. 10:15), that we are to correct wrong-doing Christians (Gal. 6:1) and even to judge the elders of the church if necessary (1 Tim. 5:20). Passage after passage tells us to use discernment and to test all things. And testing this girl's "prayer" if fully within the charges we as Christians have been given.

      Perhaps you need to really study what the Pharisees were guilty of before you charge any of us with being one. The Pharisees were attacked by Jesus for being false teachers, for adding rules of their own to judge what is “holy," for being hypocrites, for refusing correction, for pushing the letter of the Law rather than its spirit, for nullifying the Law by applying it only outwardly, for puffing themselves up as authorities to be followed, for showing disdain for the unsaved, for preaching a works-salvation gospel, for claiming that their detractors are working against God, for seeking signs and wonders, and for promoting tradition over Scripture. NO ONE on this string has done any of this.

      We have judged a person's behavior. We have judged another person's theology. Both of which we are called to do as Christians. You want to defend rank blasphemy and to justify it - just as the Pharisees would do. So who here is the real pharisee?

      If you think there is nothing wrong with this girl's "prayer," I suggest that you must have a very low view of God.

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  10. Someone needs to teach her how to reverently pray..

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